optomistic
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Post by optomistic on Jun 6, 2005 8:37:16 GMT 7
tradersgreen.com selling george L's angled heads for $7.50 Each.. cable costs $1.50 a ft (abt 30cm). how feasible is this? anti-stat and non-soldered.. i'd have to get alot if im gonna georgize the pedal board. Klotz is cheaper but yeah.. fat heads.. im conscious abt space. hehe. not to mention those colourful short angled head cables im currently using.
have any of you tried those jack to jack connectors? the gold ones with no cables at all.. think one costs abt 5 bucks. which is better? the objective is; space saving, quiet and unnoticeable in a black carpet background...
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Jun 6, 2005 9:04:40 GMT 7
Hehe, the prices of the connector for george L has increased quite a bit since i got it around 2 years plus back. Iam using george L cables for all my pedals connection and such. Here is my 0.000 cent, the cost of the george L cable is really really cheap. Get few metres of the one you need(red one and black one are the same, except one usually for guitar cable the other for patch cable. But there is no fixed deal on it....i soldered the red cable with the cheap cheap flat head connector found in sim lim sq as patch cable instead The anti stat, non soldered, again, imho, is more of marketing/advertising. But i cant deny that there is improvement over the tone than using generic cables. The differences, largely depend on the guitar used and the amp. If more guitar and amp make lotsa hiss, those cable also cant do magic. As for which is better, that i dont know. Its a choice you have to make, and in the process, you might learn something valuable. If you are really interested in george L, here is the trick. Get few meters of the each cable(red and black one), get those $0.80, flat end connector from sim lim sq, 3rd storey(one of the shop opposite Hung brother), solder you own george L cable at at much much much cheaper price  . The soldering is quite straight forward, but if you want to know more, just let me know Heh, the dealer might hate me for this  As for the quality, it is as goot, as quiet as the george L cables i had, fitted with the "no soldering" connector.... |
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Post by Stunotonyas on Jun 6, 2005 10:12:17 GMT 7
heheh yeah.. if you are real tight on space.. the neutrik, klotz combination might not work out as well.. the flatheads that 44th suggested are cheap and small and probably doesnt compromise on sound.. but the down side is if you have jacks too close to each other (like for my looper) they dun fit as well.. coz they are flat but broader but for normal pedals, there shouldnt be any problem at all..
i also got a new stock of cables from CANARE and 44th said it look like the interior of the george Ls.. not sure about that but i'm sure the canares should last longer than the klotz though.. just my tots..
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Jun 6, 2005 10:19:12 GMT 7
hmmmm, iam going crazy trying to find pics of the flat connector. edited: Closest i can find is this, the flat connectors i got from sim lim is even flatter than it.  |
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Wookie
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Post by Wookie on Jun 6, 2005 12:15:47 GMT 7
heheh yeah.. if you are real tight on space.. the neutrik, klotz combination might not work out as well.. the flatheads that 44th suggested are cheap and small and probably doesnt compromise on sound.. but the down side is if you have jacks too close to each other (like for my looper) they dun fit as well.. coz they are flat but broader but for normal pedals, there shouldnt be any problem at all.. i also got a new stock of cables from CANARE and 44th said it look like the interior of the george Ls.. not sure about that but i'm sure the canares should last longer than the klotz though.. just my tots.. i'm pretty sure my flat head jacks could fit into the looper.... |
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Post by Stunotonyas on Jun 6, 2005 12:49:54 GMT 7
i'm pretty sure my flat head jacks could fit into the looper....  as u can see, the jacks are really close.. i used 44th cable before and it didnt really fit in because my neutrik was in the way.. come let's do a bet.. if can't, you chia me AV laksa if not.. you chia me queensway laksa.. deal? |
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Post by Wookie on Jun 7, 2005 10:20:59 GMT 7
i'm pretty sure my flat head jacks could fit into the looper.... as u can see, the jacks are really close.. i used 44th cable before and it didnt really fit in because my neutrik was in the way.. come let's do a bet.. if can't, you chia me AV laksa if not.. you chia me queensway laksa.. deal? you talking about the Banzai? me talking about "THE ROCK". I can chia you Queensway laksa anytime dear... but wots AV laksa? |
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Jun 7, 2005 10:34:18 GMT 7
AV laksa- Adult vidz laksa?
maybe its those japanese av star selling laksa with the CFM look.
If that is, chio me too!
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Post by Stunotonyas on Jun 7, 2005 10:41:17 GMT 7
FUCKING PERFS.. alexandra village laksa lah.. just wanna confused you there.. heheh.. PERFS!!!! ;D
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optomistic
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Post by optomistic on Jun 7, 2005 10:45:42 GMT 7
oh yes those flat head connectors.. i had noticed the WMUM clan used them in their pasar malam layout at TAGS. they weren't selling them though.. a guy showed me some George L's instead but i didn't know much abt them at that time... and yes, ive also seen flat heads at the Novelty shop in parklane.
i actually thought of soldering my own but the only experience i have with solders was back in technical class when i frusted on the stability in inscribing a burnt design on my wooden plaque... and thats not even real soldering with the lead and all..
btw, God the 44th.. how would you solder the george L cables? i saw a cross-section pic of it and there looked to be a single pin in the middle? ok, think it'd be better if you guide me thru the steps. but then i'd need a soldering iron. erm.. and even before soldering, i'd need to make sure i strip it right. hmm..
misse sir, abt the CANARE.. care to feed me more info? interesting to know that you've got stock. i might want to consider some since i need time to learn how to strip and solder. hehe.. and erm.. i dun have to worry too much about loopers for the moment.. since i dun have one.............. yet. hehe.
but hey, im in no rush.. really appreciate all your recommendations. im gonna scrutinize the flat head connectors on site, scout ard for a prospective soldering iron investment and eat laksa for lunch.
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Jun 7, 2005 10:51:00 GMT 7
FUCKING PERFS.. alexandra village laksa lah.. just wanna confused you there.. heheh.. PERFS!!!! ;D ok ok, owner of the thread is back, lets be serious. Later than talk about AV stuff... ;D |
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Post by Stunotonyas on Jun 7, 2005 10:54:58 GMT 7
heheh it's good to start somewhere about soldering.. i was a complete newbie just a year ago.. not saying that i m an expert now, which i am certainly not.. but i know there has been quite an improvement from it.. as usual, practice makes perfect.. or at least better performance.. if you are real keen, i can sit down and show you how to DIY.. saves you money and you'll feel more contented knowin you did them yourself.. and you'll also know how to remedy faulty cables..
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Post by Stunotonyas on Jun 7, 2005 10:56:13 GMT 7
FUCKING PERFS.. alexandra village laksa lah.. just wanna confused you there.. heheh.. PERFS!!!! ;D ok ok, owner of the thread is back, lets be serious. Later than talk about AV stuff... ;D ;D.. put that on hold.. wife comes back tonight.. heheh |
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Jun 7, 2005 11:09:04 GMT 7
*serious mode* ;D the interior of th g'L are fine strand of wire. the soldering iron i used is just the cheapo type from normal diy shop. The stripping part, Normal pen knife will do, cut gently around the rubber insulation(1st layer), after a while, it can be pull out. After the rubber insulation gone, you will see a layer of wire(2nd layer) surrounding the core part, which is a 3rd layer of insulation for the main wire. The 2nd layer of wire can be lossen. After that, twist the wire together, this will be soldered to the ground point of the connector the 3 layer insulation is some plastic feel material, use penknife or other relavant tool to remove this part. Twist the core wire, this part will go to the main poin in the connector. As for the soldering to be hassle free, i use a sharp object to rough the contact point before coating a layer of the solder lead on it. After which, just heat the coating again, to insert the core wire into the main point of the connector. The 2nd layer of wire will go to the grounding point in the connector. As above, the point of contact to solder, scratch the surface a bit first before applying the solder lead. In the flat connector i got from simlim, there is no ground point, so i didnt even solder the 2nd layer. Its just core wire to the main point. Seem like no side effect so far, in term of sound degradation or noise issue. hehe, iam actually quite bad at soldering, but just whack lah. Important thing is to find something to hold the connector when soldering and scratching the surface of the soldering point, if not, it will be hard for the solder lead to settle nicely. All, imho  |
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Jun 7, 2005 11:11:30 GMT 7
wahh, so sad. No more late nite at your place liao ;D ok ok, owner of the thread is back, lets be serious. Later than talk about AV stuff... ;D ;D.. put that on hold.. wife comes back tonight.. heheh |
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. The soldering is quite straight forward, but if you want to know more, just let me know
