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Post by novocaine on Feb 27, 2005 0:15:37 GMT 7
ok now that i have your attention. Does anyone use a booster pedal here? A clean boost or something in that line. Looking to get one here.
Any comments on a catalinbread super chile picoso?
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Feb 27, 2005 5:49:57 GMT 7
as in really clean boost that are not overdrive or distortion in disguise? What sort of amp wud you be using the booster. Imho, its kinda pointless if its not tube amp or just normal practice amp. The booster wont be pushed to the potential, and even if forced on it. The tone wont really be nice.. The chile picoso shud do the job, some compared it to the zvex sho. Comparative at a cheaper price. If not, fulltone fatboost do the job, its thicken the tone, if you are into that. The zvex sho and chile picoso will have that clean sparkling feel. Make the tone slightly brighter. As if it compensate all signal lost if you are using long long chain of effect with the clean boost last one before it hits the amp If not, those clean boost can be use to slam hard on a hot driven tube amp to go into overdrive region. Can get pretty loud if you wanna try this. If you have some boss pedals in the chain and thot of using a clean boost as a buffer, it might not be necessary as boss buffer are good enough for it. I guess more importantly, shud be whats the need for that boost pedal in your setup for? All imho  |
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Feb 27, 2005 17:58:25 GMT 7
oh, mxr microamp shud do the job too...
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Post by hide on Feb 27, 2005 20:09:02 GMT 7
does anyone use clean boost pedal to boost another distortion/overdrive pedal?
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Post by Metal Zoner on Feb 27, 2005 22:26:03 GMT 7
yeah, i do.
I set my Boss SD2 to a very nice sound to boost my Sansamp TRI AC.. usually for solos. sounds goot.
also, i modded a TS-9 the other time.. i liked the boost it gave my distortion pedals. I really wanna get a TS9 for it man.. shitz...
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Post by novocaine on Feb 27, 2005 22:41:33 GMT 7
I actually want a boost for solos in live or rehearsals situations. i've actually been using the ts-9dx after the gt-2 in the efx chain, but it really muddies up the sound cos of the ts's innate mid-hump boost. So am looking for a solution (well that's the reason, the excuses are i've been GASed and i think the paint job on the SPC is really cool).
Well when you all boost using sd or ts, do you all put these 'boost' efx after the main distortion or before?
Well i'm not really into the push-tube-amp-into-breakup-blah-blah sorta sound, i play straight up metal...i just need a sweet boost for lead work(need the sound to cut throught at the same time), not a mere volume increase (otherwise i'd just use the eq). I actually like the mid-boost of the ts but it really muddies up the sound a bit too much for my liking.
anyone has experience with the fulltone fatboost? fat sound good...
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Post by dead on Feb 28, 2005 0:26:15 GMT 7
i tried putting a voodoo lab trem at the back of my chain , cos its got a volume knob and can boost quite a few db's ( i was curious ..)
and i must say that the idea of putting a volume boost behind distortion is cool, makes things more articulate and dynamic sounding.
yet to try it with those clean boost pedals tho...
should be better..
*gaassssss*
i like the names they give em too (punch love, hydra boost, fat boost, super hard on....)
*gassssssssssssss*
that aside,
my solution now for solo boosts is by switching off my 'always-on' eq pedal , which is set to cut some mids. So effectively i get a mid boost of sorts. tho i feel its more controlled sounding than using a mid-humpy dirt pedal.
but then, its easy to cut above my band cos its a 1 guitarist band ;D
and btw, i use a gt2 and play some metal songs and i've tried using a ts9 dx to do that too , didnt like it.. ;D
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Post by Pathein.Raindrop.Moe on Feb 28, 2005 5:45:22 GMT 7
before or after, imho
Usually the boost pedal(overdrive style pedal use as boost) if wanna use to boost heavy distortion, it shud be before and at a low gain setting, if not, most likely it might canncelled out the main distortion sound and get a pussy tone instead ;D
if wanna use the boost pedal after a heavy distortion pedal, from what i had tried, kinda defeat purpose of the boost. A boost pedal shud be used to push something else, instead of others pedal boosting it and in the end, the frequency get cancelled out instead..
Anyway, back to the question, fulltone fatboost. I have the older version of it. Yes, it get fat, but might not be what you have in mind. This type of boost imo, actually suit more of a non metal stuff
To boost the solo work, actually, imho, use a eq pedal, boost certain frequency that increase the mids, set at unity gain. Shud be much more easy to cut through....
Or reduce the gain of the "metal" distortion slightly.
If still wanna try a clean boost, check out the mxr one first. If that doesnt do it, iam afraid the rest of the clean boost wont and at least the cost for the mxr one is not as much as the rest. Just my 0.00002cent
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Post by Metal Zoner on Feb 28, 2005 8:06:02 GMT 7
for me, the TS9DX doesn't do it for me also... does not seem to have a certain mojo. Actually the stock TS-9 is a good pedal, but again, it does not do it for me. I usually put my boost in front of the main distortion pedal I am using. But then again, u must understand my set up. My main distortion is usually a modeller-type distortion (i.e. GT2, Sansamp). So it is like pushing an 'amp' sans the real thing. I tried putting the boost AFTER the sansamps before, but they sort of muddied out and had shitloads of noise (from the high gain settings) when everything is quiet. Basically, there are some types of pedals which you can use to boost at the end of yor distortion chain. One is the Octave-up type pedal, but it means that chording on the solo might be a problem. The other type is to have a pedal that has a "Pressence" knob. I believe the WMUM Overdrive pedal has that option and might be worthwhile looking into it. The other option, which again, I am most happy about is, the modded TS-9. I modded it for more distortion, and the side effect of some of the components was that it sort of gave an octave-up effect, which added a lot of pressence into the signal. So when boosting the GT-2, it cut thru the mix. Nicht probleme... oh, one more pedal tohelp your sound cut thru the wall...... ZVEX MACHINE!  |
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Post by Metal Zoner on Feb 28, 2005 8:11:09 GMT 7
I also tried mrmisse's collection of wares.
For a boost, I would thing that these pedals can do a fairly decent job. I say fairly decent because I never tried them in series with my rig.
Crowther Hot Cake
Crowther Prunes And Custard
Interstellar Overdrive (This one just boosts volume so much.... it might give you a blow job.)
AC Booster
RC Booster
If yo uhave the chance.. do check them out.. bring your main distortion and TS9DX as well.. comparison is always easier.
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Post by Stunotonyas on Feb 28, 2005 9:49:54 GMT 7
if u want really clean, it's the RC booster then..
slightly dirty would be Effector13 Dark Boost which is clean n gets a slight gain when boost to full.. that's $190.. or the DBA Interstellar Overdriver.. also clearing at $170..
those gain boosters would be the Hotcake n AC Boosters.. Hotcake's abit muddier n more gain..
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Post by dead on Feb 28, 2005 11:21:50 GMT 7
before or after, imho Usually the boost pedal(overdrive style pedal use as boost) if wanna use to boost heavy distortion, it shud be before and at a low gain setting, if not, most likely it might canncelled out the main distortion sound and get a pussy tone instead ;D if wanna use the boost pedal after a heavy distortion pedal, from what i had tried, kinda defeat purpose of the boost. A boost pedal shud be used to push something else, instead of others pedal boosting it and in the end, the frequency get cancelled out instead.. i disagree on that a bit sir, i may be wrong, but the boost should not 'cancel out' anything, it should in fact, take the exhisting signal and merely amplify it, as it is not a distortion or od circuit, that messes with the equalisation (tho theres really no such thing as CLEAN boost right?) of the signal. So , the only way you can 'cancel out' the signal is by reducing the boost below unity gain. Then again, it depends on the amp you're using and then again you'd probably not wanna add too much volume on a high gain, high volume, mid cut signal, which may be unpleasant to your neighbours and may be hazardous to small animals around your home, worst of all, you dont wanna scare off the people at your gig. ;D so for me, i'd add a very slight boost to medium boost, at the back of my chain. however, i'm yet to try the real stuff, so its just what i'm thinking i guess ... ;D |
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Post by novocaine on Feb 28, 2005 12:14:26 GMT 7
thanks to all for the advices man, you've all provided really good insights...i'll look into it further. i've also mailed to Brad Fee of tonefactor.com fame to plead for some enlightenment, ha. Hope that helps.
i've always used the boost(ts9-dx) after the main distortion(gt-2) to provide a volume and tonal change in order for the leads to cut through.
but of course it's valid to put it(a boost) before the amp to drive the sound too, as many have done.
i guess it's for the intended purpose then.
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Post by Stunotonyas on Feb 28, 2005 13:31:12 GMT 7
woah.. i think this topic is going into generalisation.. boost can come in so many different ways.. you can even say some people use compressors as boosters or even the wah to boost volume n tone.. what kind of boosters are you exactly looking for?..
the kind that boost the overdrive pedals, amp tone, making it to sound fatter or simply to boost the overall signal?..
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Post by Metal Zoner on Feb 28, 2005 15:14:33 GMT 7
yeah that is true lah.. got a friend use the GE7 as a boost.. after all you can equalize it and add mORE gain.. then got any friend.. lazy f-ker.... he use his trem pedal that has a volume function as a boost.. just turn the trem down lor.. hahaha I use SD2 cos I got one... i would love to clone the SD2 tho'... sounds really NICE thru the freaking digital POD Pro. |
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